Split Mega Drive and 32X dat ?

Post by **root** » 27 Mar 2007 16:22

Rif: 1254-1 Split Mega Drive and 32X dat ? \ ElBarto on 27th March 2007, 17:22 wrote:

Poll Results: Split 32X and Mega Drive ?
Yes: 73.33%
No: 26.67%

I want to split those dat because even they use the same hardware (megadrive) the 32X is an addon (as the famicom disk system), if you disagree I won't do that.

Of course explain your choice

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Re: Split Mega Drive and 32X dat ? \ Yakushi~Kabuto on 27th March 2007, 18:27 wrote:

Yes because they don't use the same hardware. IIRC, the genesis only gives power supply to the 32X. And IIRC, and all processing chips used by 32X cart are specific to the 32X.

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Re: Split Mega Drive and 32X dat ? \ alcoatjez on 27th March 2007, 19:40 wrote:

Yes, because I see them as different systems. Just as Jaguar/Jaguar CD or the Sega CD.

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Re: Split Mega Drive and 32X dat ? \ NGEfreak on 27th March 2007, 20:50 wrote:

No, because the 32x needs the base system. It should be only split from the main dat if it also works standalone.

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Re: Split Mega Drive and 32X dat ? \ Macarro on 27th March 2007, 23:29 wrote:

Yes, because 32X games doesn?t run on a standard genesis. This is more or less the case of FDS.

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Re: Split Mega Drive and 32X dat ? \ resxto on 28th March 2007, 13:14 wrote:

Yes, because:

NES - FDS

GBA - E-cards

c64pp - c64 Cart - c64 Tapes

Some of these work alone , some not, but I think if a console had more than one type of media, it's dat should be splitted

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Re: Split Mega Drive and 32X dat ? \ Russian Spy on 28th March 2007, 17:10 wrote:

No, because the 32x needs the base system. It should be only split from the main dat if it also works standalone.

I agree completely with this statement. That's why I voted no.

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Re: Split Mega Drive and 32X dat ? \ Q-Marine on 28th March 2007, 17:19 wrote:

No, because the 32x needs the base system. It should be only split from the main dat if it also works standalone.

I also agree.

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Re: Split Mega Drive and 32X dat ? \ ElBarto on 29th March 2007, 09:12 wrote:

So why the nes and fds dat are separated ? FDS can't work without the standard famicom. We have to "harmonize" our dat.

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Re: Split Mega Drive and 32X dat ? \ Yakushi~Kabuto on 29th March 2007, 09:47 wrote:

So why the nes and fds dat are separated ? FDS can't work without the standard famicom. We have to "harmonize" our dat.

I'm sure the point isn't the FDS dat there.

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Re: Split Mega Drive and 32X dat ? \ NGEfreak on 29th March 2007, 12:16 wrote:

So why the nes and fds dat are separated ? FDS can't work without the standard famicom. We have to "harmonize" our dat.

Why not merge them?

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Re: Split Mega Drive and 32X dat ? \ ElBarto on 29th March 2007, 14:24 wrote:

I'm sure the point isn't the FDS dat there.

It's the same point, if the FDS and Nes dat are separated, why the MegaDrive / 32X shouldn't be too ?

The common point of the 32X and the FDS :

1) They are addons hardware of an original system (as addon I want to say that they use them and not only for power).
2) Emulator who emulate the original system emulate them too

So split or not split ? (The both dat)

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Re: Split Mega Drive and 32X dat ? \ NGEfreak on 29th March 2007, 14:56 wrote:

I vote for not split.

To be consistent some other dats need to be split too. For example Sufami Turbo (from SNES), Voice-kun CDs (from SNES; if they ever get dumped), 64DD (from N64; if they ever get dumped), etc.

That's far too much. Every system should only have one official No-Intro dat, imho.

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Re: Split Mega Drive and 32X dat ? \ Yakushi~Kabuto on 29th March 2007, 15:36 wrote:

The FDS dat will never be merged to NES.

32X must be splitted from Genesis, totally different hardware, it was a huge historical mistake to keep them merged.

A majority of the users AND Hi-Councilers have voted for splitting so the dats will be splitted at the next release.

And since I am the historical author of the 32X part of the dat (gigadeath used my 32X dat without any change), in your next update, do not include 32X at all, as I will claim the 32X dat.

Thanks for understanding.

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Re: Split Mega Drive and 32X dat ? \ Stahn on 29th March 2007, 17:02 wrote:

I think it's only natural to split them... While it might be a hassle, it should be done.

Post by **root** » 01 Apr 2007 18:08

Rif: 1254-2 Re: Split Mega Drive and 32X dat ? \ ElBarto on 1st April 2007, 19:08 wrote:

And since I am the historical author of the 32X part of the dat (gigadeath used my 32X dat without any change), in your next update, do not include 32X at all, as I will claim the 32X dat.

Not true, Gigadeath and Omega288 redump a lot of 32X games, there were no changes because all the redumped games were already good dump but now they are confirmed.
I don't understand, you want to be the datter of the 32X dat ?

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Re: Split Mega Drive and 32X dat ? \ vhnemesis on 9th April 2007, 11:13 wrote:

32X must be splitted from Genesis, totally different hardware, it was a huge historical mistake to keep them merged.

First we have to understand how 32x worked:

Only 3D graphics and some textures were processed by 32x. Almost all games used genesis to process background imagens and genesis also process 100% of sound.

You can test yourself, by getting a real genesis+32x and play 32x games w/o using that video cable from genesis to 32x, and output to tv from genesis.

One last thing: Sega CD and 32x CD games, both uses genesis processing, so, if 32x should be merged with genesis, also Sega CD and 32X CD games should be too.

I vote for a split.