[GBC] Inaccurate database updates?

[BigFred]

Thank you for clarifying this. I didn't notice the codes had been wrong. Indeed since the "The Chessmaster" releases all match serial wise we don't really need them. What added to the confusion is also the fact that only the Japanese "New Chessmaster" release shows the "New" in the title screen while the other releases leave it to The Chessmaster.

[hydr0x]

The New Chessmaster (USA) published by Hi-Tech (DMG-N5-USA, -FAH etc.) [Rom DMG-N5E-0]

This should be (USA, Europe). The FAH cart is the European release.

[Choum]

Hello
I hope this is the good place to post that

I have found some error related to no intro pack :

Genesys/megadrive roms :

Phantom 2040 (Europe).zip → Phantom 2040 (Europe) (En,Fr,De).zip
Flashback (Europe) (Rev A).zip → Flashback (Europe) (En,Fr) (Rev A)
Flashback - The Quest for Identity (USA).zip → Flashback - The Quest for Identity (USA) (En,Fr).zip
Mig-29 Fighter Pilot (Europe).zip → Mig-29 Fighter Pilot (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It,Nl,Sv,Fi).zip (fi = Finland)
Ecco - The Tides of Time (Europe).zip → Ecco - The Tides of Time (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es).zip
The lost viking (europe).zip -> The lost viking (europe) (En,Fr,De)

Nes roms :

Jurassic Park (Europe).zip -> Jurassic Park (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es).zip

[omonim2007]

Hello
I hope this is the good place to post that

I have found some error related to no intro pack :

Genesys/megadrive roms :

Phantom 2040 (Europe).zip → Phantom 2040 (Europe) (En,Fr,De).zip
Flashback (Europe) (Rev A).zip → Flashback (Europe) (En,Fr) (Rev A)
Flashback - The Quest for Identity (USA).zip → Flashback - The Quest for Identity (USA) (En,Fr).zip
Mig-29 Fighter Pilot (Europe).zip → Mig-29 Fighter Pilot (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es,It,Nl,Sv,Fi).zip (fi = Finland)
Ecco - The Tides of Time (Europe).zip → Ecco - The Tides of Time (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es).zip
The lost viking (europe).zip -> The lost viking (europe) (En,Fr,De)

Nes roms :

Jurassic Park (Europe).zip -> Jurassic Park (Europe) (En,Fr,De,Es).zip

This place is not the best place to post about SMD games ))
Anyway thanks for valuable info!

Added regional info to appropriate games.

[BigFred]

I just bought a copy of this game for comparison.

May I ask what's the status of this?

Luckily I haven't sold this cart yet so I can redump it once I stumble upon the cart again

Any chance you will stumble upon this soon?

[omonim2007]

Game Boy Wars 2 (Japan) (Alt 1) (SGB Enhanced) (GB Compatible)
Game Boy Wars 2 (Japan) (SGB Enhanced) (GB Compatible)

Seems to be the same 4 MiBit game data supposedly burned to 8 MiBit ROM chips with different padding bytes - one being filled with 00, one with FF. It's possible this really happened, but the (Alt1) is a scene release. As long as no one else verifies the 00 padded dump I wouldn't want to keep this in the dat. It's arguable anyway if in such cases we should use the whole chip "data" or only the game data itself.

Absolutely agree with that!

I moved scene release to main Parent record as a Bad and removed (Alt 1) record from DoM at all.
Now we have pretty cool view for Game Boy Wars 2 game (http://datomatic.no-intro.org/index.php ... =47&n=0383) ))

[KingMike]

Is Game Boy Wars 2 a GBC game? From what I understand, Nintendo demanded a minimum 8-megabit cart size so smaller games had to pad it. But I suppose the question here is simply which padding is correct.
(the most extreme example I know of is Pong: The Next Level which was as required, 8 megabit, but could've fit into 1 megabit easily (I recall barely over 64KB of the space was actually used)

[buffaloj0e]

@BigFred
I do have it sitting here but still yet to get a working GB dumper, can post to any willing party if you like.

[BigFred]

According to the database there were redumps of the -NOE cart by a project called gbredump long ago that apparently matched The Chessmaster (USA) making it The Chessmaster (USA, Europe). However since this contradicts three dumps by known reliable members and because there is also no proof in the form of cart and PCB pictures I'd rather revert it to USA only until a real proper verification turns up. There have indeed been re-releases of this game but the cart itself appears to have been the same as before - at least on the outside. What do you think about this?

*Update*

According to

http://game-boy-database.com/game-EM-427-NOE.html

The initial release contains a cart which uses an US release ROM chip. The later release just features new box and manual "-1" serials but no indication of a cart revision. Possibly they are still distinct releases?

[BigFred]

It looks like this entry of Jurassic Boy II/Thunder Blast Man was updated last year introducing some improper information.

https://datomatic.no-intro.org/?page=sh ... =47&n=1409

It's not "leftover" graphics from Thunder Blast Man found in the ROM file. The info of two different dumps listed in DoM confirms that both games indeed share the same ROM (see description of cart label). It's just the board layout itself (several links on the PCB) that defines which game is actually loaded. This is a peculiarity of Sachen games. So this is in fact a combo ROM and the title needs to be reverted(possibly also the additional field).

Of course every helping hand is highly appreciated especially since it's really exhausting work and I also know it's hard to keep track with the history behind each ROM dump, but Tauwasser put a lot of effort into dumping and cataloging Sachen games properly a few years ago so I'd suggest to discuss any changes of such important entries in the forums first.

[Tauwasser]

According to the database there were redumps of the -NOE cart by a project called gbredump long ago that apparently matched The Chessmaster (USA) making it The Chessmaster (USA, Europe). However since this contradicts three dumps by known reliable members and because there is also no proof in the form of cart and PCB pictures I'd rather revert it to USA only until a real proper verification turns up. There have indeed been re-releases of this game but the cart itself appears to have been the same as before - at least on the outside. What do you think about this?

*Update*

According to

http://game-boy-database.com/game-EM-427-NOE.html

The initial release contains a cart which uses an US release ROM chip. The later release just features new box and manual "-1" serials but no indication of a cart revision. Possibly they are still distinct releases?

I touched all the Chessmaster stuff a while back, see this post. As far as I can see from http://game-boy-database.com/ the PCB picture should show a USA release. At a quick glance, I couldn't find info on the page if they make sure all pictures are from the same cartridge (and box) or if they allow "duplicates".
It's not impossible that Nintendo just re-used existing PCBs, but even the distribution rights and in-game copyright texts/presentation differ: the US version was not distributed by Nintendo as Hi-Tech distributed the game by itself. The NOE version was distributed by Nintendo and features that fact very prominently.